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Kari Simpson & Terry O'Neal's "RoadKill Radio"

Tuesday Call-In show to combat attacks on the Natural Family, Parental Rights, Freedom of Speech, Common Law..

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Kari Simpson is executive director of the Citizen's Research Institute in Langley, B.C.  CALL IN:  (604) 525-4167;  Tuesdays,  7:30-9:30 PM;  EMAIL THE SHOW LIVE:  Roadkillradio@live.ca 

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More:  Issues:  Simpson, Kari;
Issues:  Barbara Kay,  National Post
News:  Simms,  Mary Woo: BC HRT;
News:  BC Human Rights Tribunal;
Issues:  Corren Agreement;
About:  EPT =  Equal Parenting Trek;
About:  EPR = Equal Parenting Roundups;
EP Trek Generic Calendar;
About:  Equal Parenting How To's:  Three Layer Cake;
About:  Grandparents in Equal Parenting;
EP Trek Generic Calendar:
Issues:  Kinship Families or Grandparents raising Children::
About:  Grandparents in Equal Parenting

Liberal Irwin Cotler:  "Natural Parents have NO RIGHTS"

Irwin Cotler, former Liberal "Justice" Minister robbed Canadians of their NATURAL PARENTS' Rights

Irwin Cotler - Google Search;
Irwin Cotler - Google Video

"Natural Parents have NO RIGHTS....  ONLY RESPONSIBILITIES....

"Natural Parents' Rights now  gone with my Homosexual Marriage bill"

16.10 Maximum Contact & Friendly Parent Rule has to go to conform to Judicial Practice, or Judges may be held in criminal BREACH OF TRUST"

FYI, the ideas that the State assigns Rights & Responsibilities to it's Citizen is straight from pre-war Nazi Germany.   Under the British system rights are not State-given, but God Given.

Buying into the Court's position that what rights remain are Children's Rights, is buying into the same position that "<Natural> Parents have no rights", and Canadian Children are at birth the property of the Courts.

More:  News:  Cotler, Irwin:  "Natural Parents have NO RIGHTS...;
News:  European Union;
Issues:  Paul Watson:  Nazi Origins of European Union;;;
Issues: G. Edward  Griffin ;
Issues: Fabian Socialism;

Common Law Perverted by Activist Judges and Legal Oligarchy

Chapter VII. The English Common Law. Section 57. The Norman Conquest

A beautiy of British  Common Law is that it is STATIC, and NOT DYNAMIC as these Activist Judges would have you think.

Ask a lawyer what "Common Law" is and they will likely tell you it is "Judge Made Law", and expand up this to say "Common Law is whatever the Judges are commonly saying these days"

This is completely FALSE.  The Judges are Agents of the Crown and they BY DEFINITION Judges are WITHOUT CAPACITY to make any law whatsoever.  Since 1649, only PARLIAMENT has the Capacity to make Law.

British Common law was NOT created by Judges, it was only observed and documented by individuals sent out by the newly Norman Crown after the Norman Conquest of 1066  to observe and codify the laws and customs of the various peoples of Britain..  This was done with a view to aggregate existing customs which may vary across the land,  into a unified body of Laws.  The Authority quoted by the Commoners in their administration of Common Law were frequently direct quotations from the Bible and principles of Danelaw

The process of documentation took only a couple of hundred years, and the product was a STATIC body of Law which was historical, popular, and has served in the intervening centuries as a Benchmark against which Statutory Law may be measured for "Fairness".  It does NOT change.

More:   Issues:  Common Law Perverted by Activist Judges and Legal Oligarchy;
Issues:  "Judicial Interpretation" to pervert Statutes of Parliament;
Issues:  Judicial Activism is Breach of Trust;
Issues:  Judicial Globalization is Treason

Beware of the "Parental Rights" IMPOSTER!!!!

"Natural Parent's Rights" Vs "Parent's Rights"

Be on the lookout for the "Parent's Rights" IMPOSTER.  Insist on "Natural Parents Only", please!

It comes as a big surprise to us that many groups that present themselves as "Parents Rights" groups  REFUSE to defend the  NATURAL PARENT, and  and to demand RESTORATION of Natural Parents Rights taken from Canadians in the Homosexual Marriage legislation.

Instead their position to promote the "rights" of  a "Parent" in the widest sense of the word, making NO distinction  between NATURAL PARENTS and wannaabe Legal Parents.  They have bowed to University of Victoria's  assertion that  the SCC's Trociuk Decision "endorses a Heterosexual View of the Family and must be ignored", legitimizing the ongoing Child Trafficking by the State which views Canadian children as State Property and merchandise for  sale in the lucrative Child Adoption Market  They refuse to be hampered by prior obligations to that pesky Natural Parent who thinks they can Veto an Adoption.


It appears that many "Fathers Rights" groups commonly fall in with the United Nations and Liberal Irwin Cotler's assertion that the Child's Right is to be protected, but the Natural Parent has "NO RIGHTS", making the State, not the Natural Parents the Protector of the Child..

Without Cause or Consent, no Child shall be removed from a Natural Parent!!!

More:  About:  Beware of the IMPOSTER!!!!  "Natural Parent's Rights" Vs "Parent's Rights";
News:  Lessard, Hester - Heterosexual view of Parenthood must be ignored
News:  Smith, Judge Daphne, BCSC, for Child Trafficking;
Issues:  Trociuk, Darrell;
Issues:  Child Trafficking, Canadian;
Testimonials:  Rick Fredrickson of Saskatoon

Obama's Muslim Faith



Obama's Muslim Faith - Google Video
Obama's global currency / reserve notes - Google Video

"Quran commands Muslims to TERRORIZE unbelievers".

"Pretend you are your Enemy's Friend.... and then Kill him"

“Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush” (from Sura 9)

Fitna - Google Video

Revolution Muslim - Google Search;
Revolution Muslim - Google Video

More:  News:  Obama's Muslim Faith;
News:  Obama's Fake Birth Certificate & Presidential Ineligibility;
Testimonials:  Jessen, Gianna: Right to Life for Children surviving Abortions, Born Alive Truth
Issues:  William Wagener:  "On Second Thought";;
Funstuff:  Biltz, Mark:  Blood Moons over Isreal;
Issues:  Russo, Aaron:  "America, Freedom to Fascism"

Funstuff:  Life of Christ, ESV


Obama's Fake Birth Certificate & Presidential Ineligibility

Obama's Birth Certificate - Google Search
Obama's Birth Certificate - Google Video

More:  News:  Obama's Fake Birth Certificate & Presidential Ineligibility;
Issues:  William Wagener:  "On Second Thought";
News:  Obama's Muslim Faith;
News:  Obama's Forged Birth Certificate;
Funstuff:  Biltz, Mark:  Blood Moons over Isreal;
Issues:  Russo, Aaron:  "America, Freedom to Fascism"
Funstuff:  Life of Christ, ESV

Svend Robinson:  NDP MP, Lawyer & Thief

Svend Robinson - Jewl Thief

FOR broader  "Hate Crimes" Legislation

Svend Robinson - Google Search;
Svend Robinson - Google Video

Bill C250 - Google Search

Svend Robinson (right) cries while being supported by his partner Max Riveron.  Robinson claimed "stress"  caused him to steal the jewelry he intended to give his boyfriend.  Robinson continues to practice law in BC following a deal cut with his  Special Prosecutor

Svend's Bill C250 added Homosexuals to the super class of groups in Canada's retarded "Hate Law". who can destroy in Criminal Court regular Canadians for exercising Free Speech

More:  News:  Robinson, Svend  NDP MP, Lawyer & Thief for "Hate Crimes" Legislation;
Issues:  "Special Prosecutors"  for Lawyers & Judges;
Issues:  "Hate Crime" Thought Police, Tyranny of Human Rights Tribunals;
Issues:  Coulter, Ann:  Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly;
News:  Shaw, Duncan:  BC Judge for retailing Child Pornography

Pink Conservatives Moore, Keddy & Prentice vote for Homo-Marriage and elimination of Natural Parents Rights

2005-06-28  How'd They Vote Bill C-38, Third Reading (Same-sex Marriage) Voting FOR Homosexual Marriage (& putting into our children's schools, Homosexual Sex Education  Homosexual School Counselors, etc. therefore)   is James Moore, (Port Moody--Westwood--Port Coquitlam) 

2005-06-29  Marriage now just a sexual relationship, National Post

2005-06-29  For better or worse House of Commons approves same-sex marriage 158-133, National Post

Even France has rejected Homo-marriage (preferring France's homosexuals to emigrate to Canada?!). International societies of Women Judges & Lawyers appear to have designated Canada as the globe's Homosexual habitat of choice: Meijers Latest news about globalizing Homo-Marriage & Homo-Parenting;   Coming up:  26-29 June 2005, Toronto, Canada, the conference of the International Lesbian and Gay Law Association (ILGLaw),

Fabian Society, Communitarian "Wolves in Sheep's' Clothing"

Globalizing National Socialism (Nazism) since 1884

Fabian Society - Google Search;
Fabian Society - Google Video 

More:  News:  Fabian Society, Communitarian "Wolves in Sheep's' Clothing";
News:  John Dewey, Educating Americans for Hegelian Communitarianism, (AKA Marxism)






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Sniper Killer Margaret MacDonald acquitted of husband's murder

Claire Margaret MacDonald / AAP

2006-03-04  Tears as 'sniper' woman acquitted of murder; "Claire Margaret MacDonald, 39, pleaded not guilty to murdering her 40-year-old husband Warren MacDonald at the couple's property  ...  she donned camouflage gear and hid in a "sniper's nest" in bushes for 90 minutes before shooting her husband six times."  Claire Margaret MacDonald, 39 - Google Search

Goudreault, Gisele:  Mother's abduction of son Orey

2005-06-15   Mom imprisoned for '89 abduction  

In June 1989, Gisele Marie Goudreault, 46 disobeyed a court order to hand her son Orey over to his father, Rod Steinmann of Ponoka, who had been awarded custody. She fled with the boy to Mexico and lived there for four months before moving to California. ...  Justice Peter Martin condemned Goudreault's behaviour, which prevented Orey and his father from being together during the child's formative years.   "They had the right to know and love each other.  "That possibility was totally and irrevocably destroyed," Martin said.  "What this woman did to this man and this child is every parent's nightmare."  2004-02-19  US teen 'discovers own kidnap', BBC

More....

Trociuk, Darrel:  Constitutional Right to Paternity Registration in BC Vital Statistics

Trociuk Story:  Dad  wins in the Supreme Court of Canada - He takes on the provincial government of British Columbia to get his name on the birth record, Children's Rights Council;

Darrel should be able to sue Justice Southin PERSONALLY for DAMAGES, but will that ever happen?  All members of the Law Societies have sworn their First Allegiance to their Society members.

More on ..Trociuk Darrell

2006-04-20 “Men in Black” Black Fridays for Divorced Canadian Men and Non-Custodial (NCP) Fathers

Many thanks to the Western Standard for reporting Jeremy's Story.  Jeremy is a nominee for Equal Parenting's "Shadow-Parliament".  

Robert T Kendall's Compulsory Ultra-Toxic "Total-Forgiveness"


Dr. R.T. Kendall's Ultra-Toxic "Total-Forgiveness"


05/23/10 Total Forgiveness

dr. r.t. kendall, total-forgiveness - Google Search;
dr. r.t. kendall, total-forgiveness - Google Video

2010-07-23  RT Kendall on Focus On the Family discussing "Total Forgiveness";
2010-07-23  RT Kendall on Focus On the Family discussing "Total Forgiveness" Broadcast

41  Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:  42  For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:  43  I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.  44  Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?  45  Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.  46  And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.  Matthew 25:41-46, KJV

More:  News:  Kendall, Robert T:  Ultra-Toxic "Total-Forgiveness";
News:  James Dobson:  Femi-Narcisist Counter-Reformer;
Issues:  Forgiveness is NOT Compulsory;
Testimonials:  Frank, Jan:  Child Sex Abuse, Marrying a Survivor
News:  Bill McCartney:  Globalist Counter-Reformer, Promise Keepers Cult;
News:  Rick Warren: Globalist Counter-Reformer, "Purpose Driven Cult";
Testimonials:  Prior, Byron: Sexual Abuse;
Issues:  Riplinger, Gail:  Westcott & Hort's New Age Bibles;
Funstuff:  Life of Christ, ESV

Focus on the Family perpetuates the Lie that "Biblical Forgiveness" requires Victims Forgive unrepentant Perpetrators

Focus on the Family (Dr. James Dobson) - Broadcast Archives;
Focus on the Family Radio Broadcasts - Focus on the Family Canada

James Dobson is a well known psychologist, author, talk show host, and promoter of the Promise Keepers Cult.  He and his "Focus on the Family" organization and media present ideas like Compulsory Forgiveness  which he and his guests purport to be  "Biblical" or "Christian".

This writer believes  that the views Dobson and his guests promote are EXTREMELY DESTRUCTIVE to families experiencing Sexual Abuse, and are DEVASTATING to the mental health of sexual abuse Victims and their Recovery from Stockholme Syndrome Paradigm Shift (SSPS) or punishing their Spouse with the penalties they withheld from their Perpetrator.

Here are some of the assertions made on Dobson's "Focus on the Family" broadcast, many of which are LIES, misrepresenting what the Bible has to say ...

  1. "You have to walk in Forgiveness because the only other choice is to be Bitter".
  2. "If you don't Forgive you are only hurting your own health."
  3. "Don't tell anybody what <the Perp> did".
  4. "Don't let <the Perp> be afraid of you".
  5. "Don't let <the Perp> feel Guilty".
  6. "Total Forgiveness means <the Perp> doesn't even know what he did or how it affected you.
  7. "Forgiveness is not Reconciliation"
  8. "Forgiveness is not Forgetting"
  9. "Forgiveness has nothing to do with the other person, Forgiveness is something you do for yourself."

2010-07-23  RT Kendall on Focus On the Family discussing "Total Forgiveness";
2010-07-23  RT Kendall on Focus On the Family discussing "Total Forgiveness" Broadcast

It is truly incredible what these self described "Mighty Men of God" claim to be "Biblical" or "Christian".   Sadly Churches, supposedly a Refuge for the wounded, regularly become a "Den of Thieves and Robbers".  The marketplace of  "Money Changers" has become the "Book Sellers"

No wonder Pedophiles love to hang out in Churches!!!   Dobson & Co,'s "Garbage In, Garbage Out" (GIGO) products on these topics pervert Biblical vocabulary, pervert the Rights of the Afflicted, protect the Perps, distract Victims from seeking remedies for their losses, and burden already tormented victims of rape and sexual abuse by "Blaming the Victim" and sending them on an inner quest of SELF-scrutiny trapping the Victim into a decent into various Dissociative Disorders, Compulsive Lying, "Passive" Aggression, & deeper Mental Illness like Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD)

We are pleased to tell you however, these "Biblical" views are far from "Biblical" and appear to be a malicious compilation of "GIGO" Half-Truths carefully selected and arranged to teach an ANTI-Biblical position that precludes the Biblical pursuit of Vindication and Restoration of losses either by the Victim themselves or by their Appointee, their "Kinsmen Redeemer".  

FYI, in the event of a Victim's incapacitation,  the Bible teaches that a Kinsmen Redeemer was to pursue the prescribed rightful remedies against all wrongs on the Victim's behalf.

The following is are some examples what Jesus said about Forgiveness.  Sure there are verses that may drop the "if he repents", but to this we note that abbreviation of a full blown quotation is a normal and natural way in which we communicate.  If we didn't abbreviate, our conversations could never distill things down to a conclusion and terminate.  So, while we have to live with abbreviations all the time to function, we don't generally want to loose the conversational context of an abbreviation. 

Where there is a fuller discussion on a subject we think the fuller version is preferable and a  topical compilation on the is even better.  Two conversation are found in Luke 17 (ESV) and Matthew 18 (ESV).   In both, Forgiveness is PREDICATED upon Repentance of the Debtor. 

This is of course no big surprise and it is both sensible and a Biblical Theme.  Recall John the Baptists' "Repent an be Baptized for the Forgiveness of your Sins....  be Reconciled to God..." etc.

"1  And he said to his disciples, "Temptations to sin are sure to come, but woe to the one through whom they come! 2   It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin. 3  Pay attention to yourselves! If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him, 4  and if he sins against you seven times in the day, and turns to you seven times, saying, 'I repent,' you must forgive him."   Luke 17 (ESV)

"7   "Woe to the world for temptations to sin!  For it is necessary that temptations come, but woe to the one by whom the temptation comes!  ....  15  "If your brother sins against you  go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16   But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses.    ...  

"21  Then Peter came up and said to him, "Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?" 22  Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you seven times, but seventy times seven! 

"23  "Therefore the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his servants. 24  When he began to settle, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents "25 And since he could not pay, his master ordered him to be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and payment to be made. 26  So the servant fell on his knees, imploring him, 'Have patience with me, and I will pay you everything.' <He acknowledged his debt.>   27  And out of pity for him, the master of that servant released him and forgave him the debt.

"28  But when that same servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii,  and seizing him, he began to choke him, saying, 'Pay what you owe.' 29  So his fellow servant fell down and pleaded with him, 'Have patience with me, and I will pay you.'  <He acknowledged his debt>  30  He refused and went and put him in prison until he should pay the debt. 31  When his fellow servants saw what had taken place, they were greatly distressed, and they went and reported to their master all that had taken place. 32  Then his master summoned him and said to him, 'You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. 33 And should not you have had mercy on your fellow servant, as I had mercy on you?' 34  And in anger his master delivered him <who didn't forgive a repentant debtor> to the jailers, until he should pay all his debt. 35   So also my heavenly Father will do to every one of you, if you do not forgive your brother from your heart."  Matthew 18 (ESV)

More: News:  James Dobson:  Femi-Narcisist Counter-Reformer;
Issues:  Forgiveness is NOT Compulsory;
Testimonials:  Frank, Jan:  Child Sex Abuse, Marrying a Survivor
News:  Bill McCartney:  Globalist Counter-Reformer, Promise Keepers Cult;
News:  Rick Warren: Globalist Counter-Reformer, "Purpose Driven Cult";
Testimonials:  Prior, Byron: Sexual Abuse;
Issues:  Riplinger, Gail:  Westcott & Hort's New Age Bibles;
Funstuff:  Life of Christ, ESV

Compulsory Forgiveness, the Second Victimization, Part I

Introduction:

Is Biblical Forgiveness unconditional, or are there conditions to be met prior to Forgiveness? The predominant view among Evangelicals seems to be one of "Compulsory Unconditional Forgiveness". By this we mean that a victim must “forgive” the transgressor whether or not they Repent, else suffer the further denigration in being called "angry", “vengeful” or `bitter".

This paper attempts to address the problem of this “Second Victimization" by those in pastoral work applying their doctrine of Compulsory Unconditional Forgiveness", and to offer a more complete, rational, and compassionate outline of Biblical instruction for victims looking for guidance. As necessary adjuncts, the topics of victimization, codependency, and the predicament of Spouses of Survivors (SOS) are broached.

The “Second Victimization"" of Compulsory Forgiveness is twofold. The lesser point is that the victim is denied access to Vindication and Recompense due to it's being mislabeled as Revenge. The critical point is that the victim is denied reversal of the “Stockholm Syndrome Paradigm Shift" (SSPS, a catastrophic outcome.

“Stockholm Syndrome Paradigm Shift" (SSPS is a recognized adaptation a victim may make when subjected to extended terror.  It goes along these lines:

During “Stockholm Syndrome Paradigm Shift" (SSPS) the Victim minimizes the horror by shifting of responsibility for the abuse onto the weaker, less powerful player in the Abuse - themselves, the Victim.  SSPS, involves repression of their dubbed "evil" instincts and emotions to maintain a sense of peace and order in the midst of terror and chaos.

These repressed feelings following SPSS typically emerge much later in life in the ABSENCE of the Perpetrator and in the PRESENCE of an unrelated SAFE person.  These events are often called "Triggers".

To the Victim, however, their emotional state at the time is associated only with the whoever is present when the Trigger occurs and and may remain completely detached emotionally from their original, normalized trauma at the hand of the old Perpetrator.

The theory is that for emotional healing to occur, the Victim must to "remember the FEELINGS" of a few of these deferred, subjugated horrors from their PAST in true historical context so that the emotional responses being triggered, (and the subsequent maladapted behaviors) may become observable, self-regulated and replaced with a healthy Indignation, Anger, Outrage at the PERPETRATOR, and NOT the innocent Bystander, the Spouse.

Unfortunately, the main swath of Church Preachers on payroll demand nothing of this sort takes place, and aggressively quash any explorations a Victim may be making to reassess past wrongs They insist the Victim MUST FORGIVE an unrepentant Perp.   This is a LIE!!!! 

Victims subjected to the cruel "pharisaic" doctrine of Compulsory Forgiveness remain compliantly trapped in SSPS, and are coincidentally robbed of a kinder self-assessment of themselves, a right to exist, a joy in life.  Commonly they end their sufferings and internal contradictions by either Suicide or externalizing it and passing on the abuse to new Victims by  becoming honored Perpetrators themselves.

Churches who teach Compulsory Forgiveness facilitate and perpetuate sexual abuse and physical abuse. The statistics indicate that the incidence of sexual abuse is far greater in so called "Rigid Dogmatic Fundamentalist" (RDF) families that in society at large, and are second only to alcoholic stepfamilies in frequency. But how can this by so? Isn’t the Church to be a place of nurture and solace for the wounded?

The following paraphrased excerpt from an actual argument is illustrative. and sadly representative of many North American Christians.  People who study these things sometimes call these “Rigid Dogmatic Fundamentalists (RDFs)”.

"I'm not going to read any material on sex abuse. The Bible contains everything there is to know about the hearts of men.  I know where the scriptures stand on these issues and you have to get those thoughts out of your mind! What ever is .. worthy of praise.... Fix your mind on these things. Fix your mind on love and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. Stop talking about sexual abuse!.. We’ve all sinned...  We prayed about it at the time, and put it under the blood of Jesus, and that’s where it will stay……. [the victim] is just as guilty as [the perpetrator]. "

This is what Proverbs 31 calls “perverting the rights of the afflicted”. If you haven't noticed, it is laying the groundwork for a dissociative disorder

It is hardly in keeping with the Biblical portrayal of the Father’s heart towards the victim caught in a fallen and wicked world.  Jesus said to his disciples:

3  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. 4  And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.   Luke 17:3-4 KJV

 1  And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:  2  And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,  3Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.  4  Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted    Matthew 5:1-4 KJV

The proposed routes out of victimhood are outlined below.

Table 1: “Proposed Routes out of Victimhood

Common
1. Repression
2. Realization (the opportunity to begin recovery)
3. Rebuke the abuser
DOES THE OFFENDER REPENT? (Y or N)
(Y) Repent (Optimal Solution) (N) Repent Not
5) Recompense
 
5) Release to the Redeemer [the burden of wrongful shame & blame]
 
6) Reconcile (Forgive) 6) Reclaim your life.
 
  7) Remember Forgiveness & Reconciliation is impossible

Compulsory Forgiveness - the Second Victimization:

According to the Collin's Dictionary, "forgive' is defined as "to pardon; to cease to bear resentment against' to cancel a debt." The root word is an accounting term referring to the stamping of a bill as `paid', a zeroing out of the balance of an account. The phrase "Forgive and forget", is therefore consistent with the original meaning of the word. With a zero balance, there is nothing to remember!! Reconciliation and forgiveness are therefore so intimately related they are almost synonymous. Forgiveness without reconciliation is a contradiction in terms and a serious abuse of the English language. (A far better course for the victim is not to `forgive", but to `release" the anger and to defer further action against the unrepentant abuser.)

Nevertheless, unconditional forgiveness is very popular among evangelicals. The argument for it goes along the lines that since God's forgiveness is "unconditional" and `prepared beforehand", available at all times for the asking; so must also Christian victims forgive their abusers beforehand whether or not the abuser repents, and regardless of the degree of suffering the abuse has caused. This is the second victimization.

There are two glaring errors in this reasoning. Firstly, it makes the old mistake of assuming that if Christ did it, so should we. (A similar mistake is: if they did it in the new testament, so should we.) This view imposes on the victim a co-redemptive role that belongs only to the Christ, and is similar to the Roman Church's notion that identifying with Christ means suffering like Him, perhaps even experiencing the stigmata. Secondly, it "perverts the rights of the afflicted" (Pbs 31 also Pbs 24:24) by denying the victim the right of recourse and recompense. Various martyrdoms of saints are purported to be supportive of unconditional forgiveness. Stephen, for example, followed Christ's example and prayed for the forgiveness of his murderers. The difference between martyrs and victims, is simply that victims have to live on bearing the consequences of their abuse in their bodies and minds. Martyrs don't. A precedent is not a rule.

Sadly, the typical consequences of being a victim subjected to the RDF system is that the victim's life problems (which are bound to happen without special care) are routinely interpreted by the RDF as God's judgment for "unforgiveness". Some RDFs will then distance themselves from the "ungodly", "unforgiving" victim (a third victimization?). Due to the intense pressure of this "spiritual abuse", the victim, who at one time had legitimate, protective feelings and reactions to their abuser, learns to deny and hide their real feelings; and to believe that their real, hurting selves are "bad". Victims then comply with their abuser, adopting a "co-dependent" posture.

The Short Biblical Argument for Conditional Forgiveness:

As a quick logical exercise, consider God's forgiveness of men.  Conditional or Unconditional? 

If it were unconditional all would be Forgiven, and there would be only Paradise for the Forgiven, and no Hell for the Unforgiven.  This something is a Condition discriminating between the "Forgiven" & the "Unforgiven".

The Condition differentiating the Forgiven from the Unforgiven is that of the Offender's Repentance and forming a covenant relationship with the Offended to stop offending.  Note that the Covenant requires the participation of both parties.  If we are to use God's forgiveness as a model for our own forgiveness of Offenders, one would suppose that it would also be conditional on the offender's repentance and forming a covenant relationship to "Go and sin no more."

FYI for those who say the Bible doesn't talk about "Hell" or believe everyone even the Devil is already "Forgiven"

28  And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.  Matthew 10:28, KJV

27  But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.  Luke 19:27, KJV

41  Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:  42  For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:  43  I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.  44  Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?  45  Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.  46  And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.  Matthew 25:41-46, KJV

The Forgiveness Process Outcome Grid:

The confusion and hardship Unconditional Forgiveness causes victims of serious abuse could be avoided by better defining the problem using a simple concept from Decision Theory or logic. As it turns out, there are four "problems" which RDFs lump together, providing only "Compulsory Unconditional Forgiveness" as a panacea for all four.

With two players each with two choices, there are FOUR possible outcomes. These are laid out below in Table 2: "The Forgiveness Process Outcome Grid. For reconciliation and forgiveness to occur, both the offended and the offender must agree to reconcile, i.e. move to grid square A. Neither party can be held solely responsible for this outcome. The Offended's part is to move to the left column; the offender's part is to move to the top row.

Note that the structure of the grid is clear cut due to the logic of the problem. This author proposes that the path out of Victimization (D) is to pass over Unforgiveness (C) and pursue Forgiveness (A), but if the Abuser refuses to repent, it may be necessary for the victim to Release (B) their anger and recompense.

Table 2: Forgiveness Process Outcome Grid

Offended wants to acknowledge the awful truth, and forgive?

Y N

Offender wants to acknowledge the awful truth. and repent / restore what was lost?

Y Conditional Forgiveness & Reconciliation (A):

Rebuke, Repent, Recompense, Reconcile (Forgive).. the BEST Outcome,

  Luke 17:3-4 KJV

Revenge,  Resentment, Unforgiveness (C):

Forgiveness of Repentant Offender refused

Matthew 5:23-26

N "Gracious Confrontation", "Release (to Redeemer" (B):

"Gracious Confrontation";   Forgiveness Impossible,  Remember

Isa 41:10-16

Compulsory Forgiveness, Perverting the rights of the Afflicted (D):

Memory & Truth Telling Repressed, Victimization: Unconditional" or "Fast" Forgiveness, SSPS, "Denial", the WORST Outcome

Proverbs 24:24-25

Conditional Forgiveness & Reconciliation (A): Rebuke, Repent, Recompense, Reconcile (Forgive)

This is the BEST outcome, and the goal to be sought strenuously, Reconciliation is it's outcome. But it requires the agreement of both parties which cannot occur if there is a failure on either side.

The grid helps also to illustrate the parallel forgiveness process of Salvation, i.e. reconciliation between the unregenerate and God. We can view God's role in reconciliation as being the Offended, and always being in the left column, having waived the requirement for recompense through propitiation. Forgiveness is then conditional on the unregenerate Offender's decision to repent and move to Grid Square A.

 3  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. 4  And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.   Luke 17:3-4 KJV

"Gracious Confrontation", "Release (to Redeemer" (B): Rebuke, Repent not, Release to Redeemer, Remember (Forgiveness impossible)

If the abuser denies the abuse, the victim has a much harder time getting out of the SSPS and be fully restored, but progress can be made. The pain and feelings of responsibility for the abuse can be released independently. Christians exercising faith in Christ and releasing their pain to him as their kinsman Redeemer have a great benefit here.

Common parlance. has incorporated in the use of the word `forgive, what is called here a `release". In the Old Testament context this was a well understood practice, and incorporated the victim's calling on his `Kinsman Redeemer", a Christ type, when the victim themselves were unable to elicit a repentance. Reconciliation is not a part of this `forgiveness", but the victim's faith and trust in the Kinsman Redeemer provides relief of the emotional burden of victimization and bitterness.

In the parallel forgiveness process of Salvation, this is the state of unregenerate Man. As will be discussed later, the unregenerate moves from Square A to Square B at the moment of conversion for `Conversion Salvation". There remains, however, the `working out" of that promise throughout life in `Sanctification Salvation".

10  Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness. 

11  Behold, all they that were incensed against thee shall be ashamed and confounded: they shall be as nothing; and they that strive with thee shall perish.  12  Thou shalt seek them, and shalt not find them, even them that contended with thee: they that war against thee shall be as nothing, and as a thing of nought.  13  For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.  14  Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel. 

15  Behold, I will make thee a new sharp threshing instrument having teeth: thou shalt thresh the mountains, and beat them small, and shalt make the hills as chaff. 16  Thou shalt fan them, and the wind shall carry them away, and the whirlwind shall scatter them: and thou shalt rejoice in the LORD, and shalt glory in the Holy One of Israel.  Isaiah 41:10-16

Revenge,  Resentment, Unforgiveness (C):

*new* Click for Title 1.27.07 PART 5Often in the old testament records one finds vows being made to repay a wrong done many times over to the offender. This is Revenge and was forbidden. "An eye for an eye" was the `Law of Limitation" to preclude Revengence over and over, and to normally limit Recompense to the actual loss.  What we might call "Punitive Damages" were not precluded.

One potential outcome is that the offender comes to the offended, repents, and tries to make amends. The offended, however, refuses to forgive. This is the situation addressed by most New Testament verses on forgiveness, but does not play much of a role in victimization.

23  Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;  24  Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.  

25  Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.  26  Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.   Matthew 5:23-26

Compulsory Forgiveness, Perverting the rights of the Afflicted (D):

This is the WORST Outcome ant the old saw which destroys minds and lives.   Compulsory "Unconditional" Forgiveness has been very commonplace for perhaps centuries in churches.  It has been called "Fast Forgiveness".  It is just another form of Denial. 

Compulsory Forgiveness is not a way out of Victimhood, in fact it is a trap, protecting the Perpetrators.  Our guess it is a relic of Catholicism which is a surprise to find in so-called "Bible Believing" churches.

24  He that saith unto the wicked, Thou are righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him:  25  But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.  Proverbs 24:24-25

"Bondage Breaker" Fail, a variant of Compulsory Forgiveness

In recent years, an improvement on Compulsory Forgiveness has been attempted in the "Bondage Breaker" literature and remains very popular.

Unfortunately, it still fails for slightly different reasons.   Victims are still obligated to become Co-Redemptors not rebuking the offenders.  Victims are  exhorted to "pay the price of the evil...    all true forgiveness is substitutionary.." etc.

A failed improvement of the "Bondage Breaker"  material is saying  "Forgiveness is `not forgetting" and "Forgiveness is not Reconciliation" etc, both anti-Biblical insertions into what is claimed to be argued from a "Biblical" perspective. 

Forgiveness without reconciliation is a contradiction in terms!!!!  Are these authors going to rejoice in their Forgiveness by a God who will set strong boundaries against them, refusing to Reconcile with them?   The "Bondage Breaker"  is a twisted farce, a nonsense, still "perverting the rights of the Afflicted".

The answer is probably in recognizing that there are FOUR potential outcomes given that there are TWO people each of which may fail to implement their Biblical instructions.  As either a Repentant Perpetrator or Recovering Victim, you may have to face different outcomes depending on the response of the other party in the Offense.  There isn't a single answer of "Forgiveness" for either of you.

Although we cringe to repeat the "Bondage Breaker"  material due to it's rapid-fire double-talk and MISREPRESENTATION of what is "Biblical", in the aggregate, usually due to it's Compulsory Forgiveness stance, here is what it says <Arggh!>....

"Step 3: BITTERNESS versus FORGIVENESS

"Most of the ground that Satan gains in the lives of Christians is due to unforgiveness. We are warned to forgive others so that Satan cannot take advantage of us (2 Corinthians 2:10,11). God requires us to forgive others from our hearts or He will turn us over to the tormentors (Matthew 18:34,35). Why is forgiveness so critical to our freedom? Because of the cross, God didn't give us what we deserve; He gave us what we needed according to His mercy. We are to be merciful just as our heavenly Father is merciful (Luke 6:36). We are to forgive as we have been forgiven (Ephesians 4:31,32). <i.e. CONDITIONALLY>

"Forgiveness is not forgetting. People who try to forget find that they cannot. God says He will "remember no more" our sins (Hebrews 10:17), but God, being omniscient, cannot forget. "Remember no more" means that God will never use the past against us (Psalm 103:12. Forgetting may be a result of forgiveness, but it is never the means of forgiveness. When we bring up the past against others, we haven't forgiven them.

"Forgiveness is a choice, a crisis of the will. Since  God requires us to forgive <No He doesn't!!!!>, it is something we can do.  (He would never require us to do something we cannot do.) But forgiveness is difficult for us because it pulls against our concept of justice. We want revenge for offenses suffered. But we are told never to take our own revenge (Romans 12:19). "Why should I let them off the hook?" we protest. You let them off your hook, but they are never off God's hook. He will deal with them fairly - something we cannot do.

"If you don't let offenders off your hook, you are hooked to them and the past, and that just means continued pain for you. Stop the pain; let it go. You don't forgive someone merely for their sake; you do it for your sake so you can be free. Your need to forgive isn't an issue between you and the offender; it's between you and God.

"Forgiveness is agreeing to live with the consequences of another person's sin. Forgiveness is costly; we pay the price of the evil we forgive. Yet you're going to live with those consequences whether you want to or not; your only choice is whether you will do so in the bitterness of unforgiveness or the freedom of forgiveness. That's how Jesus forgave you - He took the consequences of your sin upon Himself. All true forgiveness is substitutional, because no one really forgives without bearing the penalty of the other persons sin. Why then do we forgive? Because Christ forgave us. God the Father "made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him" (2 Corinthians 5:21). Where is the justice? The cross makes forgiveness legally and morally right: "For the death that He died, He died to sin, once for all" (Romans 6:10).

Conclusion:

It appears that a problem with RDF thinking is what has to be a ignorance, perhaps willful ignorance of the Square B outcome, "Gracious Confrontation", "Release (to Redeemer".

The consequence is to invalidate the victim's self-protective feelings of indignation, their expectation of Repentance and Recompense, and to force the recovering Victim back into SSPS.

Let us close this section with a quote from Carolyn Heggen:

"Churches do teach that forgiveness of those who sin against us is a prerequisite for experiencing God's forgiveness and living a joyful Christian life. Not only have we learned we must forgive and be reconciled to those who trespass against us but we must do it promptly.

In general, the responsibility for reconciliation between perpetrator and victim of sexual abuse has been placed on the victim. It has been assumed and communicated by many pastors and lay people that if she will forgive her abuser and cast off bitter feelings, the relationship can be restored. while survivors of sexual abuse report varied responses from Christians with whom they share stories of victimization, a consistent concern has been to assess whether the victim has "really forgiven" the abuser.

Sadly, many victims report feeling reprimanded by Christian professionals for their inability to promptly forgive and forget. "when my pastor learned that the abuse had ended twenty-seven years ago, he said, 'Only a bitter, self-pitying woman would even remember these things after all those years.' "The pastor's response caused this woman to feel even more self-hatred and self-condemnation. She left the pastor's office with an overwhelming but familiar sense that she was guilty and evil. She attempted suicide that evening.

Reconciliation between victims and their offenders is surely an important and desirable goal, particularly when both are believers and members of the same congregation. As long as the relationship remains broken, not only are the key participants' lives affected, but also those of their families, the congregation, and the broader Christian community.

Thus, victims and offenders should be encouraged to work toward restored relationship. But reconciliation must be seen in the context of a longer often difficult process which involves repentance, restitution, forgiveness and reconciliation.

More:  Issues:  Forgiveness is NOT Compulsory;
Testimonials:  Prior, Byron: Sexual Abuse;
Testimonials:  Earle, Shane: Mount Cashel;;
Testimonials: Samson, Pierre:  Duplessis Orphans, QU
News:  Mount Cashel Orphanage, St. John's NL;
News:  Duplessis Orphans:  Nazi Experiments Orphange, NL
Issues:  Boys Of St. Vincent <Mount Cashel, NL>;
Issues: Child Trafficking by Public Officers & Judges

Robert T Kendall, "Charismatic" Preacher


 Kendall's Compulsory Ultra-Toxic "Total-Forgiveness"

dr. r.t. kendall, total-forgiveness - Google Search;
dr. r.t. kendall, total-forgiveness - Google Video

"You have to forgive me."

"You have to walk in Forgiveness because the only other choice is to be Bitter".  

"Don't tell anybody what <the Perp> did".

"Don't let <the Perp> be afraid of you".

"Don't let <the Perp> feel Guilty".

"Total Forgiveness means <the Perp> doesn't even know what he did or how it affected you.

"Forgiveness is not Reconciliation"

"Forgiveness is not Forgetting"

"Forgiveness has nothing to do with the other person."

2010-07-23  RT Kendall on Focus On the Family discussing "Total Forgiveness" Broadcast

... Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:  42  For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:  .... Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.  46  And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: ..  Matthew 25:41-46, KJV

More:  News:  Kendall, Robert T:  Ultra-Toxic "Total-Forgiveness";
News:  James Dobson:  Femi-Narcisist Counter-Reformer;
Issues:  Forgiveness is NOT Compulsory;
Testimonials:  Frank, Jan:  Child Sex Abuse, Marrying a Survivor
News:  Bill McCartney:  Globalist Counter-Reformer, Promise Keepers Cult;
News:  Rick Warren: Globalist Counter-Reformer, "Purpose Driven Cult";
Testimonials:  Prior, Byron: Sexual Abuse;
Issues:  Riplinger, Gail:  Westcott & Hort's New Age Bibles;
Funstuff:  Life of Christ, ESV

Clifford Robert Olson


BC Pedophile & Serial Killer, Charismatic Church member, "Bodies for Money"

clifford robert olson - Google Search;
clifford robert olson - Google Video;

People’s Full Gospel <Pentacostal> Church , Surrey, BC;  14455 104 Ave, Surrey, BC V3R1M1

robert shantz, olson - Google Search
robert shantz olson - Google Video 

More:  News:  Olson, Clifford Robert:  BC Pedophile & Serial Killer, "Bodies for Money";

Mount Cashel Orphanage / Boys Of St. Vincent

Institutionalized Pedophilia in St. John's Newfoundland

Mount Cashel Orphanage, St. John's Newfoundland - Google Search

"Newfoundland is also infamous for it’s indifference to one of it’s most precious resources ... it’s orphaned, unwanted foster children.  Childhood sexual abuse has long been rampant and continues to receive justice’s blind eye."

Boys of Saint Vincent - Google Search;
Boys of Saint Vincent - Google Videos

"Not only sex abuse of children but an elitist attitude allowing misery upon misery to be heaped upon children of a physical and psychological nature by religious people, teachers, social workers and in general professional people."



More:  News:  Mount Cashel Orphanage, St. John's NL;
Issues:  Boys Of St. Vincent <Mount Cashel, NL>
News:  Duplessis Orphans:  Nazi Experiments;
Testimonials: Samson, Pierre:  Duplessis Orphans, QU;
Testimonials:  Earle, Shane: Mount Cashel Orphange, NL
Testimonials:  Prior, Byron:  Waterford Hospital, NL
Issues: Human Trafficking in Canada


     
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