BC Judges  Mary Southin & Duncan Shaw support Pedophile rights ..."Society's attitudes toward child pornography may prove as fleeting as views in an earlier age on homosexuality."

2006-10-06  Child Pornography Decision, the legal history of the Sharpe child pornography case

2003-01-17 B.C. pays for judge <Mary Southin>'s smoking room;  2003-01-22  BC pays for judge's smoking room..."Fathers have NO rights", BC's smokin' judge Mary Southin

1999-04-27  Attitudes toward child porn could change, B.C. judge Mary Southin says

Roger Morneau:  Secret Societies & Luciferian Practices in Montreal & Canadian Law Societies

"Roger Morneau was involved in demon worship, lived in that world for many months, and escaped alive. He is able to give us inside information about it. It does not conform with popular notes of who parttakes and what the activities are. Roger was elected to be a member of an elite group of demon worshipers. When he was about to be permanently initiated he asked for help from higher powers to leave it alive. Interview with the famous author of the book titled the same. "

More:  Testimonials:  Morneau, Roger: Secret Societies & Luciferian Practices in Montreal

"Stop The PEDOPHILE PROTECTING Hate Bill!" by Ted Pike - May 3,2009

"Stop The PEDOPHILE PROTECTING Hate Bill!" by Ted Pike - May 3,2009

More:  Issues:  "Hate Crime" Thought Police, Tyranny of Human Rights Tribunals;
Issues:  Coulter, Ann:  Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly;
News:  Shaw, Duncan:  BC Judge for retailing Child Pornography;
News:  NAMBLA = North American Man-Boy "Love" Association;
News:  NAWGLA = North American Woman-Girl "Love" Association

Cathy O'Brien speaks on mind control

Cathy O'Brien speaks on mind control PT 1 of 2

Cathy O'Brien speaks on mind control PT 2 of 2

Cathy O'Brien - Google Video

More:  Testimonials:  O'Brien, Cathy: Childhood Sexual Abuse, Mind Control, NLP;
Issues:  Gunderson, Ted: (FBI) protected Pedophiles and Satanic Ritual Abuse of Children;
Issues:  Gerrish, Brian:  EU's "Common Purpose", Tyranny by Pedophiles;
 

SATANISM AND THE CIA

SATANISM AND THE CIA part-1

SATANISM AND THE CIA part-2

More:  Issues:  Gunderson, Ted: (FBI) protected Pedophiles and Satanic Ritual Abuse of Children;
Issues:  Gerrish, Brian:  EU's "Common Purpose", Tyranny by Pedophiles;
 Issues:  Dodd, Norman:  Congressional Investigator & former Banker;
Issues:  Judicial Freemasonry
Issues:  Sexual Abuse by a Public Officer
Issues:  Russo, Aaron:  "America, Freedom to Fascism";
Issues:  Judicial Activism;
Issues:  Poofy Judges;
News:  Crowley, Aleister:  Luciferian Freemasonry, Homosexual Pedophilia & Pederasty;
News:  Pike, Albert: Luciferian Freemasonry;

2003-07-02  Smoking Judge Strikes Blow for Pot Puffers

2003-06-23  Judge Says Pot No Worse Than Alcohol

2003-01-17  B.C. fuming over judge's smoking privileges

2002-01-15  "No blatant disregard' says judge in clearing Reddoch of misconduct

1999-07-02  Pornography ruling leaves sour taste

1999-07-17  Attitudes toward child porn could change, B.C. judge says

1999-08-09  The Feminization of Canadian Jurisprudence: The gap between lower and upper court philosophies widens

2005-04-27  Jailed 'witch' to sue Victoria, self-proclaimed bisexual witch;  

"ONE of Victoria's most notorious sex offenders is suing to stop Christian courses in the state's prisons because he says they discriminate against his rights as a witch.  Robin Fletcher, who is serving a 10-year sentence for drugging, enslaving, sexually assaulting and prostituting two 15-year-old girls  ..... In his complaint, the self-proclaimed bisexual witch calls for "Alpha" introduction to Christianity courses to be stopped ...  Fletcher, 49, says the course makes negative remarks about witches, astrologers and occultists ... by provoking hatred of witches. ......  Fletcher met his teen victims while a counselor. He drugged them and told them their transformation into "dark priestesses of the dark covenant" relied on them having sex with a different man each week while he watched."

Attitudes toward child porn could change, B.C. judge <Mary Southin> says, April 27, 1999

The Globe & Mail

Jurist speaks out during appeal of controversial ruling

Vancouver -- A judge of the British Columbia Court of Appeal says society's attitudes toward child pornography may prove as fleeting as views in an earlier age on homosexuality.

"We have to recognize that our views about these matters might change radically. Society's view may change radically over a very short period of time", Madam Justice Mary Southin said during the first day of an appeal of a high-profile ruling that legalized the possession of child pornography in B.C.

Judge Southin is one of three jurists on an appeal-court panel that has been asked by the B.C. government to overturn the ruling, which held that production and distribution of child pornography is still a crime but simple possession is not.

In the ruling, which has drawn international attention, Mr. Justice Duncan Shaw of the B.C. Supreme Court this year dismissed two charges of possession of child pornography against John Robin Sharpe of Vancouver. Judge Shaw said Section 163.1(4) of the Criminal Code   -- which prohibits possession of child pornography -- is not a reasonable limit on freedom of expression guaranteed by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Judge Southin repeatedly interrupted Crown attorney John Gordon. In response to an argument that Canada had international commitments to fight child pornography, she said she was uncomfortable "pontificating" about whether street children in countries such as Brazil should be involved in the making of pornography, especially since the children may receive some money for the pictures.

"Some of these people, whether we like it or not, isn't it a fair assumption that they did it for money? ... What right do we have pontificating about what street kids do in Brazil?"

She also questioned whether the court should consider whether criminalization of child pornography was effective in restricting exploitation of children. Referring to [alcohol] Prohibition in the United States, she said: "Look at the results. It did not stop anything. It just made it worse."

Mr. Gordon said criminalization may not be 100-per-cent successful in eliminating child pornography. "But you cannot throw up your hands and say, 'What's the point?'" He dismissed suggestions that Mr. Sharpe should not be punished for his writings because they are products of his mind, not the exploitation of a specific child.

"It's all dreadful stuff, very badly written", said Judge Southin, but she added: "There are graphic books written about rape, but we don't ban them."

Mr. Gordon dismissed Judge Southin's comments on society's views of child pornography.

"Is society going to evolve to the extent that material that promotes and encourages the sexual abuse and sexual exploitation of children becomes acceptable?" Mr. Gordon asked.

"I submit not, because children, like homosexuals, deserve dignity, privacy, autonomy of body. Child pornography is antithetical to the rights of children." Judge Southin also said she was troubled by Canada's antipornography law because it treats teenagers in the same way as children who are 8 or 10.

"That's what troubles me about this legislation", she said, adding that she wonders whether teenagers who are 14 to 17 can still be considered children.

Mr. Sharpe, accompanied by a friend, sat in the centre of the public gallery during the appeal proceedings, occasionally taking notes on a legal pad. He said outside the courtroom he felt he was doing a public service by challenging the law. "It's a bad law. Someone had to attack it", he said.

Although Mr. Sharpe represented himself in the lower court, he has a lawyer who will make a submission today to the panel. About 20 people, including Reform MP John Reynolds (West Vancouver-Sunshine Coast), attended the hearing yesterday.

Mr. Reynolds said outside the courtroom he wanted to hear the concerns about the antipornography law. "If the law is not good enough to prevent Sharpe from having the material he has, then we have to change the law to make sure it is", he said.

Canadian Judicial Council closes file in complaint against BC Madam Justice Southin, March 21, 2003

2003-03-12  Judicial Council closes file in complaint against BC Madam Justice Southin

OTTAWA, March 21, 2003 – The Canadian Judicial Council has closed a complaint file involving Madam Justice Mary F. Southin of the British Columbia Court of Appeal for smoking in her office, having concluded that there are no grounds for a finding of judicial misconduct, the Council has advised the author of a formal complaint against the judge.

The judge's smoking and the installation of a ventilation system in her chambers that was done at the direction of the B.C. Attorney General, "do not fall within the ambit of judicial conduct reviewable under the Judges Act", Vancouver lawyer Dugald Christie was told in a letter from Jeannie Thomas, the Council's Executive Director. The complaint was dealt with by the Honourable Constance Glube, Chief Justice of Nova Scotia and Vice-Chairperson of the Council's Judicial Conduct Committee.

Mr. Christie originally alleged that by continuing to smoke and by accepting changes to her chambers to accommodate a ventilation system, Madam Justice Southin had brought the administration of justice into disrepute. In a further letter of complaint, Mr. Christie argued that Madam Justice Southin's dissenting reasons in a recent decision in Reilly v. Lynn were an "effrontery" to the Supreme Court of Canada. He also argued that the judge's conduct will give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias on her part when cases are argued before her by the provincial government or its Crown corporations, because she will be beholden to the Attorney General for providing the changes in her chambers.

Chief Justice Glube also rejected these allegations. She noted that the Council has no jurisdiction to review whether a judicial decision is correct or not, and that the assessment of judicial conduct is concerned with actual bias or actual conflict of interest, not a reasonable apprehension of bias. Mr. Christie was advised that he had provided no evidence of actual bias or actual conflict of interest.

On the issue of smoking, the response stated that B.C.'s Occupational Health and Safety Regulations place the onus on the Attorney General to control exposure to workplace smoke by prohibitions, restrictions or "other equally effective means". In this case, it was the Attorney General's decision as to how the province would comply with the regulation.

The Council's procedures for dealing with complaints about the conduct of federally appointed judges may be found on its Web site at http://www.cjc-ccm.gc.ca/.

Contact

Ms. Jeannie Thomas
Executive Director
(613) 998-5182

Child porn will flourish without law, police warn, April 27, 1999

B.C. court deciding whether man has right to possess child pornography

VANCOUVER -- Police efforts to contain the spread of child pornography in Canada will grind to a halt unless the courts overturn a British Columbia ruling that federal laws violated an individual's right to freedom of expression, the British Columbia Court of Appeal heard yesterday.

"They will be placed in a legal straitjacket and the child-pornography industry will flourish", said Tim Danson, a lawyer representing the Canadian Police Association.

What the court is pondering are difficult legal questions regarding where an individual's rights end and where society's obligation to protect its children from sexual exploitation begins.

Mr. Danson opened the hearings with an attempt to introduce as new evidence an affidavit from Detective Inspector Robert Matthews, the officer in charge of the Ontario Provincial Police child-pornography unit.

Det.-Insp. Matthews said that if possession of child pornography is made legal, "police would be completely stymied in their efforts to combat the spread of child pornography", which is speeding up because of the Internet.

He said that before child-pornography legislation was passed in 1993, police found it almost impossible to investigate and prosecute people for collecting and disseminating pornographic material involving children, and were making only one or two arrests a year in Ontario.

"After passage of Bill C-128, this number skyrocketed. In 1998 alone, Project 'P' (the child pornography unit) handled as many as 134 investigations and prosecutions", he said.

"I verily believe that the principal reason for this dramatic change was the inclusion of possession of child pornography as a criminal offence."

Det.-Insp. Matthews said that without the legislation that is now under scrutiny, "the fight against child pornography will be greatly undermined at the very time that the spread of such offensive material is increasing dramatically."

The legislation was cast in doubt last January in a case against John Robin Sharpe, a retired town planner who was arrested after a raid on his Vancouver apartment.

Mr. Sharpe, who initially represented himself in court, won a victory when Duncan Shaw, a B.C. Supreme Court judge, ruled the state had violated his right to privacy and freedom of expression when they entered his apartment and seized pornographic material, much of which he'd written himself.

Within weeks of the ruling, the courts in B.C. had turned aside 18 other child-pornography cases, saying they could not deal with them until appeal courts made it clear whether or not the legislation was valid.

That question brought a dozen lawyers and three judges to the Vancouver courthouse yesterday, as John Gordon and Kate Ker opened arguments for the Crown.

Mr. Gordon said that child pornography not only exploits the children who are depicted in the photographs and videos, but the material plays an important role in "grooming" other children for seduction.

He said pornographic material is frequently used by paedophiles as a tool for lowering the inhibitions of future child victims.

He cited the case of one man, identified only as K.L.B., who was arrested after he was found in possession of a pornographic photo of a five-year-old girl, which he had been showing to a two-year-old girl.

Mr. Gordon said that in the Sharpe case, the Supreme Court judge erred in focusing on the privacy rights of an individual, and neglecting to adequately consider the rights of children who could be exploited by exposure to pornography.

He said the threat of pornography is increasing because of the expansion of the Internet, which allows such easy distribution.

"This is an underground market", he said. "Not only is it underground, it is clandestine and, through the medium of the Internet, it is anonymous."

Mr. Gordon said that one argument against criminalizing the possession of pornography is that it might make it illegal to explore issues surrounding the topic of child sexuality.

"You can explore the issue of youth sexuality without pornographic pictures and stories", he said. "You don't need that . . . You just don't need the dirty pictures, you don't need the dirty stories."

But Justice Mary Southin, one of three judges hearing the case, which is expected to end today, told him that society's definitions change, often dramatically and in short periods of time.

She noted that Lady Chatterly's Lover was once considered shockingly pornographic, but now isn't.

"It's all dreadful stuff . . . and badly written", she said of the pornographic material seized by police in a raid on Mr. Sharpe's home.

"I don't think Lady Chatterly's much of a book, either. (But) I don't know how you draw the distinction."

She said just because some people find the subject matter offensive, that's no reason to throw a blanket ban over a subject.

"There are graphic books written about rape and all sorts of things, but we don't ban them", she said.

Mr. Gordon argued that there is no excuse for any material, written or graphic, that promotes sexual offences against children.

"There is no good child pornography", he stated.

"Like hate literature, it deserves only marginal protection."

Justice Southin also expressed concern about the definition of "children", saying that while the legislation establishes the age of consent at 14, that seems to be out of step with some of the things happening in the world.

Judge Southin asked the Crown why some of the children depicted in the Sharpe pornography case are considered exploited, when it appears they posed for sexually graphic pictures for profit.

"Whether we like it or not, isn't it a fair assumption that they did it for money?" she asked.

She also noted that some of the children appeared to be from Third World countries, and wondered what legal grounds Canada had for being concerned about them.

"What are we doing pontificating about street kids in Brazil?" she asked in a provocative exchange. When Ms. Ker, Mr. Gordon's co-counsel, replied that Canada had international obligations, Justice Southin fired back: "We don't have international obligations to stop kids starving to death in the streets of Brazil, do we?"

Ms. Ker said Canadians should not be involved in exploiting children in Brazil or anywhere.

But Judge Southin said concepts such as integrity and autonomy are often dictated by economic realities, and poor children -- like poor women who are forced into prostitution -- might have different views than those held by white, middle-class Canadians.

"That's the trouble with these arguments", she said. "They all sound fine until you start looking at the real world."

Judge Southin suggested that perhaps the views Canadians have about child pornography may change over time, perhaps to the point where it becomes acceptable.

"It has not reached that stage and it appears unlikely that it will", replied Ms. Ker.

Judge Southin also questioned Mr. Gordon about the effectiveness of the child-pornography laws, saying while they may make it easier to arrest and prosecute adults, that doesn't necessarily mean they do much to protect children.

"Will it work?" she asked.

"These sound like all the arguments around in the United States for prohibition . . . It made it worse."

She noted that the sexual exploitation of children was a fact long before the Internet emerged, and appears to have little to do with the dissemination of pictures or stories.

"People offended against children in Roman times, when practically nobody could read or write except for the upper classes", she said.

"It will continue to exist in our society", replied Mr. Gordon. "(But) we cannot throw up our hands and say 'What's the point?' "

The case continues.

Copyright © 1999 by The National Post. All Rights Reserved. Reprinted with permission.

Madam Justice Southin not known to back down <on Pedophile Rights to make Child Porn>, July 01, 1999

1999-07-01  Madam Justice Southin not known to back down <on Pedophile Rights to make Child Porn>

Madam Justice Southin not known to back down Outspoken judge doesn't shy away from speaking mind

Susanne Hiller National Post

Ian Lindsay, The Vancouver Sun John Robin Sharpe outside the B.C. Court of Appeal in Vancouver yesterday after the court upheld the dismissal of charges against him of possession of child pornography.

Madam Justice Mary Southin, a veteran of the British Columbia Court of Appeal, is considered by the legal community in Vancouver to be a tough, single-minded judge who has a history of making controversial statements.

"She is considered here to be a respected, hard-working judge who has, what I would call, a scholarly approach to the law," said Tom Woods, editor of The Advocate, the Vancouver law review.

"She's a tough judge. She expects council to be well prepared and to perform to a high standard. She's single minded and is someone who is not afraid of shrinking from a decision that she may anticipate being unpopular.

"She has a very direct manner, and a very direct way of expressing herself," Mr. Woods said. "She is not known to back down. She doesn't always find herself in agreement with the rest of the panel."

Judge Southin made headlines in April when she said society's views toward child pornography may change over time, perhaps to the point where it becomes acceptable.

"We have to recognize that our views about these matters might change radically," she said during the first day of the appeal hearing of the ruling that legalized the possession of child pornography in B.C.

She noted that Lady Chatterly's Lover was once considered pornographic, but now isn't. Her questions during the hearing shocked many in the courtroom. She asked, for example, whether teenagers who are 14 to 17 can still be considered children, and why some of the children depicted in the pornography case involving John Robin Sharpe are considered exploited when it appears they posed for sexually graphic photos for profit.

"Whether we like it or not, isn't a fair assumption that they did it for the money?" she asked.

Judge Southin also wondered what legal grounds Canada had for being concerned about children in Third World countries.

"What are we doing pontificating about street kids in Brazil?" she asked. ". . . We don't have international obligations to stop kids starving to death in the streets of Brazil?"

Judge Southin graduated from the University of British Columbia's law school in 1952 and has been on the court of appeal since 1988.

In 1997, the parents of a teenage girl filed a formal complaint to B.C Chief Justice Allan McEachern and Canadian Judicial Council, over comments Judge Southin made when she threw out an former teacher's sexual assault convictions.

The complaint said "atrocious" comments were made by the judge during the appeal of Ian Crocker, a former Mayne Island teacher. The parents' letter quoted Judge Southin as saying, "What's the matter with parents on Mayne Island to let their children go on a camping trip with only one adult?"

The letter also complains Judge Southin said: "Let us keep in mind that these are not severe assaults such as brutal rape or buggery of little boys."

In an article printed in a 1995 issue of The Advocate, published by the Vancouver Bar Association, Judge Southin argued that the current justice system is "not helping to prevent young people from becoming killers."

"Sometimes," she wrote, "I have the uneasy feeling that to some who are concerned in the administration of justice, the taking of life is of no special significance -- to kill a man or to kill his dog is all of the same moral quality."

In the article, she argued that children's' names should not be protected under the Young Offenders Act. The act, she wrote, is "one of the law's sillier provisions, at least in cases of serious crime."

She said children should not have the right to remain silent and suggested that the Young Offenders Act should treat troubled youths the same way good parents treat their children.

"A wise parent who suspects his child is up to no good does his best to ferret out the truth," she said. "He does not advise the child that he has a right to remain silent. He does not ask for a warrant to confine his erring offspring to the house. He admits of no right of appeal."

In 1988, Peter Brown, chairman of Canarim Investment Corp. Ltd., complained embarrassing comments made by Judge Southin damaged his reputation. The comments were made during an investments trial, in which Mr. Brown's company was a third party in the proceedings. Judge Southin questioned a $120,000 cheque that was paid to Mr. Brown for introducing a group of financial investors.

"Doesn't seem to bear any rational resemblance to rational and decent human behaviour at all, does it?" the judge asked.

David Roberts, a Vancouver lawyer who has known Mary Southin for 45 years, had this to say about the Sharpe ruling:

"I think that this decision shows a fair amount of intellectual integrity because she certainly would not take kindly to child pornography.

"She would abhor it. But she had the courage to decide what she perceives as right, in light of the Charter [of Rights and Freedoms], whether she likes it or not."

"She is a very intelligent person and the legal community views her that way, she has the memory of an elephant," he added. "She is fairly straitlaced and has a very perceptive view on the difference between right and wrong. She is quite plain spoken."

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Alfred Kinsey:  Rockefeller Research in Pedophilia & Falsified Reporting

Alfred Kinsey - Google Search;
Alfred Kinsey - Google Video

Sexual psychopath.  His 'data' mostly came from sexual psychopaths, sex offenders, criminals, pedophiles, male prostitutes, and promiscuous homosexuals.  Two of his "co-investigators" were serial rapists: Rex King, convicted of 800 counts of child rape involving both sexes, and Fritz von Balluseck, an ex-Nazi convicted of the rape-murder of a ten-year-old girl in Berlin

Kinsey solicited and encouraged pedophiles, at home and abroad, to sexually violate from 317 to 2,035 infants and children for his alleged data on normal "child sexuality."

Homosexual Marriage: Stripping Natural Parents of Common Law Parental Rights

Canadian Children are born parentless as State Property available for Trafficking by State Officials

2004-12-04  Supreme Court OK's same-sex marriage;

The Supreme Court decision

2004-12-04  Liberals to introduce same-sex marriage bill in January;  (Liberals allow Activists rather than Parliament to create Legislation, abandoning Supremacy of Parliament.)

More:  Issues:  Homosexual Marriage: Stripping Natural Parents of Parental Rights

Duplessis Orphans: 

Nazi Experiments on Canadian Children

Duplessis Orphans - Google Search;
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Pierre Samson- Google Search;
Pierre Samson - Google Videos  

More:  News:  Duplessis Orphans:  Nazi Experiments;
Testimonials: Samson, Pierre;
Testimonials:  Prior, Byron
Issues: Human Trafficking in Canada